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AJ1993	Posted: Nov 4 2009, 08:38 PM
Couch Potato Group: Members Posts: 84 Member No.: 17 Joined: 8-July 09	I'd like either one of your opinion's or both, I don't care and really anyone else's for that matter but I'm going to dare to ask it... Would it be a bad thing for a breakaway league to overtake MLS as this country's top flight? I mean they would most likely have... what the word for the opposite of single entity. This means we can attract big name players by telling them, "Yes, we can pay more than what your underwear's worth." Davis, Ginge, and anyone else THOUGHTS?! -------------------- MY RESPECT CAMPAIGN (Teams I don't support but I respect): Newcastle United Chester City Rubin Kazan FC Union Berlin Dynamos (Zimbabwe) Hannover 96 NO RESPECT CAMPAIGN (Teams that I'd have to be dead to support): Arsenal Liverpool Barcelona

SirHenry	Posted: Nov 9 2009, 10:34 AM
A Knight of Highbury Group: Members Posts: 143 Member No.: 25 Joined: 13-July 09	Breakaway league.... Isn't that what MLS was when they started??? -------------------- A Dragon in a Bunny suit is still a Dragon...

Ginge	Posted: Nov 11 2009, 04:27 PM
Oh No, Not Again. Group: Admin Posts: 222 Member No.: 2 Joined: 6-July 09	It certainly wouldn't be bad but I don't see it happening. IF the new TOA league could find a way to provide a better on the field product anything could happen, but I don't see them having the capital to do that. Plus they are wanting to position themselves as a second division. The real interesting thing will be if the new league and MLS eventually work out an agreement of some kind of player movement. -------------------- Ginge Talks the Footy \| http://www.twitter.com/GTTF

SirHenry	Posted: Nov 12 2009, 07:37 AM
A Knight of Highbury Group: Members Posts: 143 Member No.: 25 Joined: 13-July 09	Can't the all combine and make a Relegation/Promotion league structure out of it???? -------------------- A Dragon in a Bunny suit is still a Dragon...

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Posted: Nov 30 2009, 02:03 AM

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someone posted this on a forum I frequent, and was wondering about the accuracy of some of the stuff about USL getting franchise fees and not telling what they're doing with it.

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CubanMissile posted:

I can't imagine a single positive thing coming from the whole NASL ordeal.
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Crazy Ted posted:

I can. You'll have a professional league run by its member teams and, as mentioned, the owners are willing to put their money into it for a while.

One thing about the USL is that it was run as a bit of a personal fiefdom by Francisco Marcos, with the league collecting yearly "franchise fees" from its clubs and an increasing amount owners unsure of what exactly the league was doing with the money (USL controls the marketing of the entire league but puts out almost no major advertising, and gives the teams it collects franchise fees from no final say and no vote in league scheduling, rules, or regulations).

Then last year you have the league being sold to the Atlanta-based NuRock group when there was at least one and possibly two groups that bid more money, with news coming out after the fact that not only was the league sold to a group run by a personal friend of Marcos, but some of the USL-1 teams only found via press release when they had been told previously by the league that one of the other groups had won the bidding and were working on adjusting the league structure with said group, and said group was essentially informed through the public domain that they actually had not purchased the United Soccer Leagues like they had been previously told they were.

Let that one sink in...

The average team in this new league would likely have a player salary budget in the $500,000 to $600,000 range. With at least two of the teams being run by billionaires who've said they'd be willing to help prop up the league, that shouldn't be a problem.

Also, Montreal and Vancouver will turn the teams they'll have in the league next year into reserve sides that will play in the same division (and will be based in nearby cities) upon entry into MLS, so the league won't automatically be minus two teams within a couple of years.

And as for the whole NASL thing:

I'll have to comb back over some stuff tomorrow but I believe that was not the first choice of the TOA group. I think they were considering names like "National Professional Soccer League" and at least one other name first, but there were already leagues in place with the names they wanted to use, so they went with NASL because of the presence of the Canadian teams and not out of nostalgia.

Once NASL was decided on you saw the trademarking of some of the old team names because...well hey they were free for the taking.

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